Too many “two-pizza” teams

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nderflow · July 29, 2020 at 7:36 am

Hell, I’m a one person two-pizza team.

seijulala · July 29, 2020 at 9:00 am

Teams of only 2 people seem like very small teams honestly

BestKillerBot · July 29, 2020 at 10:47 am

This is quite interesting topic.

I agree that inter-team collaboration, communication, alignment, shared roadmap are the enemy of the autonomous teams, and they hinder bringing business value ASAP.

If you follow through with the idea that autonomous teams can use whatever means to get to the end goal with no alignment and scale this to a non-trivial number of teams then you are bound to end up with crazy mess.

One team delivering business value without alignment can be fast and successful, second team will have a more difficult job since they will face a choice of either fixing the 1st team non-aligned stuff or doing their own thing (“any means necessary”).

Mix of platforms, frameworks, database systems, deployment strategies, number of systems which are doing mostly the same, but a bit differently because it’s always easier to create new as opposed to update the old.

These autonomous teams without alignment can bring short term wins, but in the long term they don’t help you reaching your strategic goals.

As with many things in technology (notable example microservices), these new approaches don’t actually fix/remove the complexity, they just push it outside of its area of responsibility so it must be dealt with on a higher level.

lpuglia · July 29, 2020 at 1:47 pm

I will never understand how pizza works in USA, in Italy a two-pizza team would be a team of 2 people

drecklia · July 29, 2020 at 2:51 pm

We microserviced ourselves

paloaltoalto · July 29, 2020 at 2:55 pm

Team quality and output heavily depends on the individuals of the team, work ethic, leadership organization within the team, knowledge, prioritization skills, and general understanding of the problem space.

Sometimes we forget that there is a human element in this industry, not a space on the production line to fill.

XANi_ · July 29, 2020 at 4:37 pm

Kinda reads like “this idea was just fine, then management got involved”

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